Talk:List of ships sunk by submarines by death toll

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles

Death Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Military history: Maritime / World War I / World War II

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion not met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Maritime warfare task force
	World War I task force
	World War II task force

Lists

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Setting 300 as the minimum death toll for listing

The number is somewhat arbitrary, but it approximates the upper limit of a destroyer crew; and, since destroyers are much more numerous than cruisers, battleships and aircraft carriers, their inclusion would produce a much longer list.Thewellman (talk) 02:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a problem with the sorting system. When sorted by the number of deaths the order is decided only by the first number. The order becomes ...833, 9343, 930, 935, 956. Is the comma separating thousands causing this? Ristipiste (talk) 18:08, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed now. Now there seems to be a problem in the next column - the alphabetic sorting is referring to prefixes rather than ship names. 93.205.58.58 (talk) 10:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat misleading information

A fairly obvious error is introduced when writing '9,343 German refugees', '1,621 Axis POWs', '935 British soldiers'. Obviously not all the people who died on the ships in question were what the article claims to be. Can we be sure that all the people on the Wilhelm Gustloff were German for example? And even if they were, there were also the sailors manning the ship, guards, etc, etc. Those lost were not all refugees, or POWs. The figures should simply be stated without further embellishment. To aid clarity however, a 'type' section could be introduced ('battleship', 'troop transport', 'passenger liner', etc) as well as a nationality field, the nationality referring to the ship in question, rather than those aboard.

A further point, a note should be added to cases such as the Wilhelm Gustloff, Laconia, Tatsuta Maru, etc, where the numbers are an estimation, or are in some way unclear or disputed. If there is no objection, I'll do this in the next day or so. Benea (talk) 03:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing ship

Is there any particular reason why there is no mention of the Khedive Ismail which, according to her Wikipedia article, suffered 1,297 fatalities when she was sunk by a Japanese submarine in 1944? RASAM (talk) 22:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added.Thewellman (talk) 01:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Armenia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_hospital_ship_Armenia 37.19.38.193 (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia was sunk by aircraft (like SS Cap Arcona, RMS Lancastria, HMT Rohna, and Thielbek) and therefore not included in this listing of ships sunk by submarines.Thewellman (talk) 18:46, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Hogue (1914)

Didn't HMS Hogue lose only 48 men, as mentioned in its Wiki article? 137.205.171.3 (talk) 14:53, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article on Hogue, despite being a good article, is actually looking dubious. Though there's a source for the casualty figures of 48, it doesn't fit with the numbers lost that day. Most sources don't give a ship by ship breakdown of casualties unfortunately, but there's general agreement that around 1,400 men died. A little under 1,100 of them were from Aboukir and Cressy (our articles have 527 and 560 respectively, totalling 1,087 men). The remainder must be from Hogue, so the figure of around 375 looks right. The dead are actually listed in Don Kindell's casualty lists, and though there is a mild discrepancy, 373 names are listed. Sources give the numbers rescued from Hogue as being 29 officers, 352 men; total 381, i.e well short of her total complement of around 750 men. Benea (talk) 15:42, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RMS Lusitania death toll

The article on the RMS Lusitania states 1198 casualties; this page says 1201. Someone who knows about such things needs to clear up that discrepancy. John D. Goulden (talk) 03:46, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on List of ships sunk by submarines by death toll. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:37, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

America Maru

The removed entry for America Maru cited an incorrect page for Blair's description of the sinking. The page mentioned in the edit description mentions the sinking, but states the death toll was unknown. Where did the death toll estimate come from? Thewellman (talk) 01:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]